Pitot & static

Pitot & static

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:42 am

by Carlos Trigo

Guys

I am beginning to build the tail of a XENOS, and there is an indication in the plans to use the pitot & static inlets in one of the ruddervators.

Did you use this?
Or did you place the pitot & static anyplace place else?

Thanks
Carlos

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Pitot & static

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:52 am

by Carlos Trigo

Not ruddervator, stabilator.

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Re: Pitot & static

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 12:11 pm

by Matt541

I know Kip Laurie did on his Waiex. You can see it here:

[youtu_be] https://youtu.be/HhPfqCsXTOE [/youtu_be]

Start @ 01:54, but the whole video is excellent and worth watching. Pretty sure he talked about it in another one, but I don’t remember which.


Re: Pitot & static

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:21 pm

by racaldwell

Yes, I did this on my Xenos. I have a removable total energy probe mounted per the plans. I’m still building so I have had the chance to walk into it yet.

Rick Caldwell
Xenos 0057


Re: Pitot & static

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:38 pm

by Mel

Carlos Trigo wrote:Not ruddervator, stabilator.

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Not stabilator; Stabilizer. Stabilator is combined stabilizer and elevator. As long as we’re being “picky”.


Re: Pitot & static

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 1:59 pm

by Bryan Cotton

Mel wrote:

Carlos Trigo wrote:Not ruddervator, stabilator.

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Not stabilator; Stabilizer. Stabilator is combined stabilizer and elevator. As long as we’re being “picky”.

Sikorsky Blackhawks have stabilators. One of my dad’s patents.

I did a tail mounted pitot on my Waiex. Planning on using cabin air for static. This is what Kip did.

¡Bienvenido Carlos!


Re: Pitot & static

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 2:05 pm

by Mel

Bryan Cotton wrote:

Mel wrote:

Carlos Trigo wrote:Not ruddervator, stabilator.
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Not stabilator; Stabilizer. Stabilator is combined stabilizer and elevator. As long as we’re being “picky”.

Sikorsky Blackhawks have stabilators. One of my dad’s patents.
I did a tail mounted pitot on my Waiex. Planning on using cabin air for static. This is what Kip did.

Be careful using cabin air for “static”. Opening and closing vents at higher speeds can cause significant errors.

I also plan to use tail mounted pitot, but will use the position specified in the Moni plans for static. This uses a round head pulled rivet approximately half way between the wing and stabilizer, a few inches below the main longeron.


Pitot & static

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:09 pm

by Carlos Trigo

Mel wrote:

Carlos Trigo wrote:Not ruddervator, stabilator.

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Not stabilator; Stabilizer. Stabilator is combined stabilizer and elevator. As long as we’re being “picky”.

Mel
As long as we’re being picky, the XENOS does have stabilators!

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Re: Pitot & static

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:29 pm

by Mel

Carlos Trigo wrote:

Mel wrote:

Carlos Trigo wrote:Not ruddervator, stabilator.

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Not stabilator; Stabilizer. Stabilator is combined stabilizer and elevator. As long as we’re being “picky”.

Mel
As long as we’re being picky, the XENOS does have stabilators!

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Sorry, I’m not that familiar with the Xenos. All the pictures I’ve seen appear to have fixed stabilizers and ruddervators.


Pitot & static

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 3:32 pm

by Carlos Trigo

Bryan Cotton wrote:

Mel wrote:

Carlos Trigo wrote:Not ruddervator, stabilator.

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Not stabilator; Stabilizer. Stabilator is combined stabilizer and elevator. As long as we’re being “picky”.

Sikorsky Blackhawks have stabilators. One of my dad’s patents.

I did a tail mounted pitot on my Waiex. Planning on using cabin air for static. This is what Kip did.

¡Bienvenido Carlos!

Thank you Brian

I am from and live in Portugal, so in Portuguese you would say “Benvindo Carlos”, but I feel welcome anyway…

Best
Carlos

Re: Pitot & static

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:42 pm

by Bryan Cotton

Carlos,
My apologies, my Spanish is not good enough to always spot Portuguese. Someday I’ll learn a second language, it is a life goal.

Edit: some pictures here:
viewtopic.php?f=39&t=578&p=25337#p25337

Near the bottom of the page.


Re: Pitot & static

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:58 pm

by Bryan Cotton

Also, check out this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=927&hilit=Wd40&start=0


Re: Pitot & static

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:58 am

by Area 51%

So…what is the technical term for an “all-flying” control surface on a V/Y tail? Only a couple of planes with that configuration I can think of.

Ruddervatorsanitizer?

Ruddervatortater?

Stabilatorvator?


Re: Pitot & static

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:22 am

by Rynoth

Tailfeather