Log Book Entry
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 3:34 pm
by Area 51%
“Chett” became legal September of last year. When I turned the calendar page from Sept. to Oct. last week, Chett once again became a fugitive.
The condition inspection is mostly complete, and I’m wondering if anyone can tell me what wording needs to be used in the logs. I’m sure I’m not supposed to utter the phrase “annual inspection”, but aside from that, what needs to be said other than descriptions of work accomplished?
Getting ready for ROUND 2 here @Area 51%
Re: Log Book Entry
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:00 pm
by tx_swordguy
There should be some language in the OPs limits regarding airworthiness and what language to use. I am not a builder so forgive me if I am wrong but I thought you had to have the repairmans certificate to sign off on your own condition inspection. If that is the case I would have thought they would go over that in the class.
Mark
Re: Log Book Entry
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:35 pm
by Area 51%
I have the repairman’s certificate. The “class” involved a doughnut and a cup of coffee at Dunkin.
I will check the limitations for the wording, but all I can recall is what needed to be said about the Phase 1 sign-off.
Re: Log Book Entry
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:22 am
by wlarson861
I have an EAA airframe logbook and the inspection language is printed in the front of the book.
Re: Log Book Entry
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:27 am
by wlarson861
I found this on Kitplanes, I believe this is the language I use.
I certify that this aircraft has been inspected on (date) in accordance with the scope and detail of 14CFR Part 43, Appendix D, and was found it to be in a condition for safe operation.
Re: Log Book Entry
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:24 am
by Area 51%
wlarson861 wrote:I found this on Kitplanes, I believe this is the language I use.
I certify that this aircraft has been inspected on (date) in accordance with the scope and detail of 14CFR Part 43, Appendix D, and was found it to be in a condition for safe operation.
Sounds good to me. Judges?
I’m guessing the engine log reads pretty much the same?
Re: Log Book Entry
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:20 am
by DCASonex
looks right. Remember to also sign it.
David A.
Re: Log Book Entry
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:41 am
by Scott Todd
The exact wording is in your operating limitations. You should not speculate and just copy those.
Re: Log Book Entry
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:11 am
by builderflyer
Also, you should have had to enter the identical inspection statement(s) in your aircraft and engine logbooks prior to getting your FAA inspection. At least that is what was required in my case.
Art,Sonex taildragger #95,Jabiru 3300 #261
Re: Log Book Entry
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:26 am
by Sonerai13
The operating limitations are king. Don’t go by what anyone else’s limitations say. They “should” all be the same, but one never knows. Pull out your operating limitations and check to see what is necessary. There will be a paragraph in there calling out inspection requirements.
The condition inspection entry needs to be in the airframe log only. You can write something in the engine log too if you want, but the airframe log is the controlling document in the case of condition inspection.
Re: Log Book Entry
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:48 pm
by pfhoeycfi
I’m curious about the logbooks needed post build (not the build log). Are separate engine and airframe logbooks sufficient? Is a prop logbook recommended? Are the EAA logbooks any good?
peter
Re: Log Book Entry
Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:26 pm
by Sonerai13
pfhoeycfi wrote:I’m curious about the logbooks needed post build (not the build log). Are separate engine and airframe logbooks sufficient? Is a prop logbook recommended? Are the EAA logbooks any good?
There are certain things that need to be recorded in “aircraft records”. There is no specific definition of “aircraft records” anywhere in FAA documentation. It’s really up to you how you want to keep track of maintenance history on your plane.
The most common way, of course, is logbooks for airframe, engine, and prop. However, that is not set in stone. I’ve seen all kinds of variations on the theme, including electronic records nowadays. You will be required to have someplace to make entries for condition inspections and other required items, but how you do it is up to you.
The EAA logbooks are fine, and in fact the airframe logbook is very handy because it has the initial condition inspection already printed in it, along with a space for the FAA inspector to put his/her entry approving the aircraft. Other than that, it’s just a normal logbook.
So it’s really up to you. If your aircraft is not yet certificated, you might want to ask your friendly DAR or FAA inspector what he or she would like to see and follow that recommendation. But the world is your oyster, so do what works best for you