We typically go power off abeam the numbers, and fly at 70 kts, about 79 MPH. We can do power off at 60 kts, 68 MPH, but at that speed you really have to time the roundout and flare.
Same figures as Bryan 65-70 kts final, 60 kts over the fence, down to about 40-45k kt flair. Add 5 knots for a passenger.
For the most part I use 1 or 2 stages of flap, only going to 3 if high/fast, on final.
Smooth landings seem to like speed. Stall landing rarely go well for me.
I always found that if you much over 60 on short final you were gonna float forever. Most pilots tended to approach too fast. The plane flies great at 60. You will find it comfortable to use that speed.
I saw that in my transition training notes from when you taught me, Joe. (Yes I still have them and use them!)
My airspeed indicator is not that accurate and I find trying to land at 60 indicated makes for an arrival.
My LRI is my guide and indicated just below 70 mph - bottom of the yellow on my LRI - makes for consistent landings with almost no tendency to float. But yeah - add a few mph and she sails on down the runway.
I wonder if your AIS is calibrated close to accurate? If not, you could be landing slower than indicated. Probably not likely if your indicated stall speed is around the factory figures but worth a thought.
I have the standard Pitot/Static arrangement and found the low speeds to be very close to accurate but the high speed was reading a good 15 knots higher than it should have and the altitude was reading low. I got it pretty close by putting an aluminium sleeve just ahead of the static port.
The sad thing now is I don’t get the high cruise speeds that others quote…
I calibrated in phase 1, and sadly lost about 13 kts. I think I went from 110 to 50 indicated to collect calibration data. On short final I do start rounding out, so I’m probably approaching 60 kts. We have one midfield exit and I generally need to add power to get to it, even on 12 at C77 with a displaced threshold and closer to the exit. I’ve seen a few RVs and even Cessnas blow past it. Last time I was doing slow flight I could get down to 43 kias.
Just this morning had my biennial transponder check, which includes air speed as well as altitude.
Turns out my indicated airspeed is a bit high at Vne, spot on at 100- 130 knots and low at landing speeds. (all within a 4 knot tolerance) All good as this means there is a small safety factor built in, at both ends of the flight envelope.
I had the same checks done and everything was exact for speed and altitude, but that is with the airplane sitting on the ground. That check has no idea of position errors though and with mine, the static source was getting less pressure at higher speeds which put both the indicated speeds out and also the altitude.
I would think most Sonex aircraft that have the standard pitot/static arrangement would have similar errors.
I usually do final between 65 and 70 knots and try to get down to 60 Kts over the fence. Most of the time, the tail wheel touches before the mains which probably means I am well below 60 upon touch down.
Once my Waiex is flying again, I will be working on trying to get 3 wheels down at the same time.
Interesting discussion and I am glad I asked! Now I have something to go back and try again…I have made enough changes over the past ten years flying her to make me wonder about accuracy.